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[Closed] tw Gio dot freekill report
« on: January 26, 2021, 03:52:44 pm »
Your In-Game Name: Cheems Ball Z
Their In-Game Name: tw Gio dot
Their SteamID (https://SteamID.io): STEAM_0:0:209543250
Time of occurrence (Date and Time, Map and Round): 26-1-2021 around 15:35 round 21, map = Jb minecraft tango

Rule(s) broken: Freekill
What happened (Be detailed): Telling us to do a cancer jump from the pig on top of an invisible block to the tree on top of the wall where u can see most players in the demo without demonstrating it and then killing me for not doing it (even after i told him he has to demonstrate a cancer jump). There were a lot of new players on who also got killed btw, quite unfortunate since 1 even ragequit (and maybe won't come back). Also he said it is 1 jump while getting on the tree is 2 jumps (assuming u start from the pig) + the jump from the tree on top of the wall... 3 jumps total, he's not making any sense.
Provide necessary proof (Demolinks are NOT sufficient evidence): https://imgur.com/a/ISm80oa <-- u can see both demo's, scroll down for the 2nd and don't forget to click on the sound icon (its off by standard).
For some reason the first demo doesn't have any screenrecording, but luckily the second and most important demo has screenrecording.
Note: If u look in the chat u can also see the admin saying: theyre new they dont know that jump ._.
I hereby agree to follow the guidelines set forth above(Agree/Disagree): Agree
« Last Edit: January 29, 2021, 04:42:36 am by Noah »

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tw Gio dot freekill report
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2021, 03:52:44 pm »
Thank you for submitting your report!
 
We will attempt at getting this case responded to and processed in a timely manner.
 
For most minor cases, reports are usually processed in 24-48* hours. For larger and more difficult cases, reports are usually processed in 72-96* hours. Depending on how much weight the report consist of, it could be extended. Internal Affairs will determine if the case is major and if it needs to have an extensive period placed on it to allow a smooth process. In this case, your report will be updated notifying you of such and you or other parties involved may be contacted for further details/information.
 


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Re: tw Gio dot freekill report
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2021, 04:35:41 pm »
The Admin at the time posted in Global Admin Chat, that it was not a Cancer Jump, prior to the kill.
In the first Demo, you will hear the ping of the admin saying it's not a Cancer Jump.

You decided to be a bitch about it, cause you didn't want to die. You also kept threatening to report just so I would be scared and not kill you.

I'll take any punishment if I was in the wrong, but don't think I was. Over half the server completed the jump.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2021, 04:48:12 pm by Gio »
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Re: tw Gio dot freekill report
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2021, 07:27:53 pm »
I was one of the admins on at the time and from the second clip you can see that everyone made it but you. There was only 2 new members on, Gio explained it, they made the jump then when he called "floor was lava" they fell and died. Not to mention you SCREAMING into your mic for gio to kill you, hence why you died. Funny how your clip didn't record that but its all in the demo... Don't see how its a freekill when you requested him to kill you...  The spy guy made it but fell when the order "floor was lava" was in place. Please stop screaming into your mic

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Re: tw Gio dot freekill report
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2021, 08:51:04 am »
As you can see the 2 people above me clearly have no knowledge of the rules. A cancer jump (this one had 3 jumps) should be demonstrated and not "explained". "Everyone made it but you" is also one of the things said, that doesn't matter the rules are the rules even if they don't care and decide to do the jumps, I still have the right not to do so if I want (sadly new players died, because they felt like they had to do it since Brandon said he doesn't have to demo it as he says above in this post). Also a claim i can see here is that i asked for him to kill me which is not true at all, if you would have actually listened you could hear me say kill me if you want to be reported, as i clearly warned multiple times that he has to demonstrate it.

Anything else?

Note: Quite sad that an admin like Brandon decides to lie on a report...
« Last Edit: January 27, 2021, 08:53:52 am by Luigi »

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Re: tw Gio dot freekill report
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2021, 05:56:58 pm »
Regardless, of the amount of jumps it is, a "Cancer Jump" is based upon the admin discretion (as there is no list for all the jumps considered "Cancer").

Brandon being the ranking admin on, I can assume determined due to the amount of players which completed, and the difficulty of the jump, that it is not a "Cancer Jump".

However if I am wrong Brandon please feel free to correct me.

Otherwise, in the situation being told it is not a Cancer Jump did give me the ability to kill you for not following orders.
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Re: tw Gio dot freekill report
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2021, 04:42:23 am »
Determining if this situation was a freekill or not is dependent on if we call the jump in question a skill jump. Our current definition of a skill jump is any jump not apart of a minigame, so by the book the jump should have been demonstrated. Ultimately though, this definition is constantly disputed and put under question, so we delegate this task to admin discretion. What this situation boils down to is that Gio, operating under the Dr. Brandon's discretion, did not need to demonstrate the jump, making his action not a freekill. I will ping @Bill and @PickolasCage so they can see this situation for themselves, and if they see an issue with how this was handled from an admin perspective then they may deal with that with the Jailbreak admin team, but since this report was on Gio on the grounds of a freekill it can be ended here.

Beyond just the situation that this report was made for, I see so much wrong with how everything was handled. Admins are contradicting themselves in all chat by saying it doesn't need to be demonstrated but also saying "there are new players who don't know how to do it", Sponger not getting muted for repeatedly screaming into his mic to harass Luigi, and, from what Gio and Brandon have said, Luigi screaming into his mic that he is going to report people and to kill him. This turned into a complete mess, and all I can ask of you guys is to not turn this into some weird beef where we start using me as the arbiter of who pissed off who the most. If I see the people involved in this report harassing each other in the future, appropriate punishments will be handed out.

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