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KZClimb Rebuilt
« on: December 20, 2020, 09:28:15 pm »
KZClimb has been rebuilt on GOKZ instead of KZTimer. We are going to have a brief test period until Tuesday for people to give feedback to me (in dms @tjbalon#0306). If you like the new plugin or if we should revert to KZTimer. There is a notable visual difference, and a few missing features. Need further testing to be able to get feedback and make a decision which to keep. Please DM me the feedback or post in this thread, thanks!

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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2020, 09:29:23 pm »
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2020, 09:48:47 pm »
When is the server going to be put up?

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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2020, 10:46:18 pm »
KZClimb has been rebuilt on GOKZ instead of KZTimer.

just would like to put my piece in as the past kz div and i had actually denied carl's suggestion to implement this.  i have played on gokz servers and simply disliked them, from a player and admin standpoint. in my opinion, it makes players new to kz frustrated as there are more things you have to understand, such as how to change the mode you are in and different factors about each of those modes that you're playing in. it also frustrates old players that are used to either hns or kzt settings as it a lot to unpack and a lot of unexpected change for simply no reason. as an admin, there's been situations with kztimer where players simply dont understand how to word there problems in one mode, but now it is set up as 5 times more difficult with 5 times as many modes. it is 100% up to the player at any given time to project their issues, but many get confused. i completely understand that there were issues with kz, but this wasn't one of them.

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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2020, 01:53:08 am »
KZClimb has been rebuilt on GOKZ instead of KZTimer.

just would like to put my piece in as the past kz div and i had actually denied carl's suggestion to implement this.  i have played on gokz servers and simply disliked them, from a player and admin standpoint. in my opinion, it makes players new to kz frustrated as there are more things you have to understand, such as how to change the mode you are in and different factors about each of those modes that you're playing in. it also frustrates old players that are used to either hns or kzt settings as it a lot to unpack and a lot of unexpected change for simply no reason. as an admin, there's been situations with kztimer where players simply dont understand how to word there problems in one mode, but now it is set up as 5 times more difficult with 5 times as many modes. it is 100% up to the player at any given time to project their issues, but many get confused. i completely understand that there were issues with kz, but this wasn't one of them.

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We are going to have a brief test period until Tuesday for people to give feedback to me (in dms @tjbalon#0306). If you like the new plugin or if we should revert to KZTimer. There is a notable visual difference, and a few missing features. Need further testing to be able to get feedback and make a decision which to keep. Please DM me the feedback or post in this thread, thanks!
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2020, 02:45:10 am »
We are going to have a brief test period until Tuesday for people to give feedback to me (in dms @tjbalon#0306). If you like the new plugin or if we should revert to KZTimer. There is a notable visual difference, and a few missing features. Need further testing to be able to get feedback and make a decision which to keep. Please DM me the feedback or post in this thread, thanks!
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2020, 12:17:46 pm »
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2020, 05:48:48 pm »
So far getting mixed feedback.

I think overall I understand that GOKZ is a lot more reliable, and people are favorable of that. Some of the core things missing are:
- bots that zoom automatically, to help players on the map without having to queue a !replay
- the spectator menu kinda poopy, not in the speclist
- bit of confusion between vnl, kzt, and the s one LMAO

I have a short list of things from @SJP he'd like to see:
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- models need to be fixed and added
- need extends
- message on join talking about the update, the commands, etc
- talk about hud command
- figure out timeleft

Overall, I am conflicted as I like KZTimer but change is change, and probably necessary -- especially if we want to re-global the server. Thoughts overall?
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2020, 05:49:49 pm »
im liking it so far, although its sorta confusing but hopefully more people will get used to it eventually.
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2020, 04:40:54 pm »
Models have been fixed.


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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2020, 04:44:46 pm »
the only thing i don't like about the new GOKZ is that the movement is a brand new curve of learning it. plus you took my admin ding!!! :(


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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2020, 04:46:06 pm »
gokz is much more fun imo. having new modes to try out on maps that i have played on kzt has been really fun, and having the option to play vnl whenever i want is a good time as well. pwease keep gokz  :-[


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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2020, 04:55:46 pm »
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2020, 04:57:08 pm »
gokz is much more fun imo. having new modes to try out on maps that i have played on kzt has been really fun, and having the option to play vnl whenever i want is a good time as well. pwease keep gokz  :-[
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Re: KZClimb Rebuilt
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2020, 04:58:23 pm »
I really like to see this happening and seeing some sort of face lift to the server. I think KZTimer is really easy to use but for most people who play the KZ server it's mostly people who already know what KZ is and already know about this stuff and to give them a new face to KZ and the ability to keep the coming back with the new stuff that would come along with GOKZ is the main focus of my point. I like KZTimer but in my opinion a change to the server can do way more good than harm to what it already is right now, even if GOKZ is slightly harder to use I don't think it will completely cut off new players from connecting back.




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