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holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« on: September 12, 2019, 01:17:20 am »
So recently before I resigned I had gotten into a debate whether or not CTs are able to pursue off sound when there are only rebelers left (blood hounder died from rebeling 2 Ts alive)

And then a fellow admin had warned the CT for going to a certain location for “pursuing off sound” which fucking blew my mind because the warden wasn’t giving pardons so what else were they suppose to do other than wait the rest of the round for the Ts to find them




Scenario ( 2 of them forgot which one was the correct one)



Map for both : Spy Vs Spy

Last CT kills blood hound, hears vent break outside and runs outside (gets warned) this is last ct, he’s allowed to roam etc


2 CTs left , the Warden isn’t giving any pardons because they didn’t take the pardon  after killing the rebeling blood hound, 2 Rebelers left, CT heard him break vent outside, runs outside but then is warned to (forgot which one it was) to stay inside maincells to bc he’s pursuing off sound or just to not pursue off sound.



like ????
What are they suppose to do? Wait for the Ts to come to them or just wander around the map for the remaining 3 minutes left in that round



help settle this please





ps is “you’re not allowed to pursue off sound” even an actual rule




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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2019, 01:57:13 am »
i say they should be able to

the point of "pursue off sound" is that you shouldnt leave warden and the non rebelling t's just to go find a rebeller that you didnt see

however, if there are only rebelling t's, are you just supposed to
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and go somewhere else to find the t's? it seems weird

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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2019, 04:56:50 am »
It’s common sense to go outside if you hear the outside vent being broken.  What are the admins even doing anymore

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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2019, 05:29:30 am »
It’s common sense to go outside if you hear the outside vent being broken.  What are the admins even doing anymore

Majority or doing their job? Why make retarded comments like this man. Let them do their job and administrate the server. They cant please everyone. It's just a warning anyways like what's the big deal with that. Not like he slayed swapped him or anything

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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2019, 05:35:06 am »
It’s common sense to go outside if you hear the outside vent being broken.  What are the admins even doing anymore

Majority or doing their job? Why make retarded comments like this man. Let them do their job and administrate the server. They cant please everyone. It's just a warning anyways like what's the big deal with that. Not like he slayed swapped him or anything

Warnings lead to slays lmao.  They shouldn’t be warned or in the future slayed for using their brain.

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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2019, 05:37:07 am »
It’s common sense to go outside if you hear the outside vent being broken.  What are the admins even doing anymore

Majority or doing their job? Why make retarded comments like this man. Let them do their job and administrate the server. They cant please everyone. It's just a warning anyways like what's the big deal with that. Not like he slayed swapped him or anything

Warnings lead to slays lmao.  They shouldn’t be warned or in the future slayed for using their brain.
And you shouldn't criticize a new administrator. Help him learn the rules instead of making petty comments bro. No hard feelings for you but dumb shit like this irritates me. Help him instead of hating. Spread the love 

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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2019, 05:46:13 am »
It’s common sense to go outside if you hear the outside vent being broken.  What are the admins even doing anymore

Majority or doing their job? Why make retarded comments like this man. Let them do their job and administrate the server. They cant please everyone. It's just a warning anyways like what's the big deal with that. Not like he slayed swapped him or anything

Warnings lead to slays lmao.  They shouldn’t be warned or in the future slayed for using their brain.
And you shouldn't criticize a new administrator. Help him learn the rules instead of making petty comments bro. No hard feelings for you but dumb shit like this irritates me. Help him instead of hating. Spread the love

I might be wrong but from dreads post it seems like it was cutecumber, I wouldn't call that a new admin as he is applying for a-team along with you and from some posts I've seen on your application, your behaviour pattern seems hypocritical to what you are saying here.
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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2019, 05:52:16 am »
People make mistakes and ya gotta move on. Living and learning is apart of life and its going to seem hypocritical but doesnt mean it shouldn't be done.

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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2019, 07:15:25 am »
The majority of this issue is just an admin discussion situation. The admin in question should have let the round proceed without warning that player for pursuing off sound. Otherwise if he had been “following the rule” the admin would’ve had to eventually slay for delay.

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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2019, 08:11:14 am »
So recently before I resigned I had gotten into a debate whether or not CTs are able to pursue off sound when there are only rebelers left (blood hounder died from rebeling 2 Ts alive)

And then a fellow admin had warned the CT for going to a certain location for “pursuing off sound” which fucking blew my mind because the warden wasn’t giving pardons so what else were they suppose to do other than wait the rest of the round for the Ts to find them




Scenario ( 2 of them forgot which one was the correct one)



Map for both : Spy Vs Spy

Last CT kills blood hound, hears vent break outside and runs outside (gets warned) this is last ct, he’s allowed to roam etc

And by the way people who think this is recent, its not it was a long time ago, putting this up seeming that its new wehn my A-Team app is up than before? Yeah ok.


2 CTs left , the Warden isn’t giving any pardons because they didn’t take the pardon  after killing the rebeling blood hound, 2 Rebelers left, CT heard him break vent outside, runs outside but then is warned to (forgot which one it was) to stay inside maincells to bc he’s pursuing off sound or just to not pursue off sound.



like ????
What are they suppose to do? Wait for the Ts to come to them or just wander around the map for the remaining 3 minutes left in that round



help settle this please





ps is “you’re not allowed to pursue off sound” even an actual rule




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When i read this i said to myself “this is me isnt it - scrolled down BOOM me lmao - and that was quite a time ago, i got corrected and never did it again

What lead this to believe it was me because you put my @ in there and this situation was about a month ago... if you are talking about me
« Last Edit: September 12, 2019, 08:16:42 am by CuteCumber »
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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2019, 08:17:08 am »
Common sense, if both terrorist are rebelling and have refused the pardon why would you not be able to roam and pursue and eliminate the last two remaining terrorists. Unless there’s specifically a terrorist still not rebelling and has accepted the pardon, the ‘pursuing off sound’ part still comes into play and the pardoned T should be bloodhounding.

As said above, the round would be delaying itself if the terrorist were not pursing them themselves. I can see in this situation where you would be warned for that reason, but it’s unfairly given to the fact that you’re trying to swiftly end the round.

 
It’s common sense to go outside if you hear the outside vent being broken.  What are the admins even doing anymore

This is right when both terrorist are delaying the round, not pursing or trying to end it. In which Cucumber should have warned the Terrorist Side, and or let the round proceed forward without any obstructions.

It’s already problematic that there isn’t currently a mentorship system to help assist people who’re new to being jailbreak administrators, or coming over from another server from their SA. Hopefully they’ll get to fixing that issue sooner or later.

Pursuing off sound keeps it fair game in regular hours, during late night hours you can pursue almost off anything. I’m not sure what time of day this event occurred, but jailbreak overall is just common sense. There are some rules that prevent that, but use common sense first before acting irrefutably. Pursuing off sound has been a thing since I’ve started Jailbreak, but people like to flip the rule book and change its meaning more than trying to clarify it.

The rule wasn’t as strict as it is now. Even thought its not in the rules, you should be with warden and helping the warden promote successful rounds. This could be defined in many different ways and I don’t want to go into huge detail over the topic. The rounds are based off the experience the CT has overall, knowing how to act in situations even if you can hear them breaking a vent. This is almost close to the situation where admins are able to see team chats, but may vary entirely differently.
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Re: holy shit I’m losing brain cells
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2019, 11:14:40 am »
I only pursue off sound when it’s someone walking or opening doors n shit, not vents. I’ve never gotten in trouble. If they both were delaying then the admin should have warned both sides. You’re allowed to roam as a CT and pursue if they are delaying on purpose.

 

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