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Change the time before we can play the same map?

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[Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« on: January 11, 2019, 05:15:39 pm »
1. Describe the Suggestion: I've suggested it before, and it's begun to be brought up again so I'll suggest it again, change the amount of time before we can play a map to be higher, we were averaging 30+ players every day and now suddenly that number is falling down right as we go back into the habit of playing the same 5-6 maps again. Players are leaving when we're playing Undertale, Obama, etc. for the 3rd time in the day.

I was asked to create a poll so we could get the community's opinion, if you'd like to leave a more in-depth vouch or devouch you can do it below as always.
2. Related link(s): N/A
3. Possible positive impacts: Provides more of an experience for players and encourages them to stay on longer. Providing a better experience is why players have been sticking recently, so it'd be good to keep that going up
4. Possible negative impacts: People don't get to play their favorite map for another hour or two.
5. Which Division/Server will this idea affect: CSGO/Jailbreak
6. Tag the respective Staff member(s): (div staff, div managers, web admin, etc.): @Freddy ♡ @Wumbear @Damien
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2019, 05:19:51 pm »
its not like people arent voting for those maps....

the server population is going down because of school, these are the same jailbreak maps that were played all of break too

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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2019, 05:22:40 pm »
its not like people arent voting for those maps....

the server population is going down because of school, these are the same jailbreak maps that were played all of break too
Except I'm seeing people specifically complain about it and be bored with playing the same shit all day?

It appeals to some but we're losing population because it is stale and overplayed, it won't kill those who like the maps played alot to wait another couple hours to play it'll still be played 3 times in a day or something.

To those of us who don't want to play obama or VIP all day it's refreshing.
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2019, 08:26:07 pm »
You do realize the population is going down due to school, during our winter break we were doing the same maps because we enjoy them.  The server was always populated and was a lot of fun.  People pick the same maps time to time because they and many others enjoy the maps as well.

You're trying to correlate a decrease in population due to the "same maps" being played to fit some weird agenda you have.  Sure maybe 1 or 2 people have complained but the popular vote wins with these.  Theres nothing wrong in my opinion with playing these maps from time to time.  Maps such as Obama, Undertale, Summer Jail, Clouds, Avalanche, and Peanut.  Those maps are often played because people enjoy playing on them. 

Decrease in population is due to school coming back, has nothing to do with maps, as seen during winter break. 

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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2019, 08:55:05 pm »
Personally, I'd enjoy jailbreak more if we had a wider diversity of maps. There's been various times when me or another person said "wow they're playing obama/vip lmao I'm not getting on for this cancer shit", so even though this is just a personal opinion, I'd love jailbreak with more map diversity.

edit: not supporting or denying the supposed corellation between map differences and pop, just stating my personal opinion which may or may not benefit the server xd
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2019, 09:04:01 pm »
People vote maps they want to play that is why a vote comes up. If a majority of the people want to play a map then why should we try and stop them from doing so?

We also see spikes of plays every winter break, everyone in high school has gone back to school thus the rank drops, happens every single year. I personally don't think this is needed.

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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2019, 09:10:31 pm »
I see your point, but from my limited time playing, these maps get played because people like them, it’s going to be a neutral from me, as I can see where you’re coming from. The fall in population is definitely due in part to the fact that school for %90 of people has started once again.
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2019, 09:33:10 pm »
I want to say this, I know that this was posted right as school starts up again and that is an inconvinence to this post. I had no real passion for JB or really getting it's voice out until recently, and I'm seeing this issue crop up recently again so I bring it back up.

Yes, we're losing players because of Winter Break, I understand that, but going from 30+ to under 20 players after a map change is not okay. I'm seeing groups of people (Notably the people who've generally played for a long time and those who're keeping others interested in the fun side of Jailbreak) leaving and them leaving causes more to leave, getting us right back to the shitty experience we were tied down with before.

A large part of the success we had this Winter Break was because Jailbreak was actually fun. The players were playing and we were having fun with the gamemode as players, and with the server itself as people. We're playing the same maps over and over to the point some of those same players who were staying on and helping us reach as far as we did are getting off of the server. I've discussed it with several members myself and they can agree that it gets repetitive or toxic when we do the same stuff over and over. This is an issue less about the players leaving, and moreso about the impact that overplaying the maps is having on the server which is clearly negative.

The Hardcore Jailbreak players, the ones voting these ones in, are still going to play on Jailbreak regardless of the map and time of year, but for the more casual players or players with less time they are far less willing to play the same stuff over and over. Over half of the time spent on the server is played on 5 maps, that is not okay. It is not like we have a shitty map-pool either, we have 10+ amazing Jailbreak maps and Damien is bringing more to the table soon.

This isn't going to drive away hardcore players and it will cause players that are irritated by the map pool being so stale to have a breathe of fresh air. We don't depopulate insanely whenever we play something like minecraft_hb or tropico or maps like that because they are good maps, we're just overplaying the same maps  we currently have and it could be expanded upon and done better.
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2019, 09:43:28 pm »
I hope you can get the word out with this Poll and more comments that you put down.
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 10:02:25 pm »
People vote maps they want to play that is why a vote comes up. If a majority of the people want to play a map then why should we try and stop them from doing so?

We also see spikes of plays every winter break, everyone in high school has gone back to school thus the rank drops, happens every single year. I personally don't think this is needed.

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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2019, 04:34:42 pm »
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2019, 04:51:51 pm »
i dont play jb as much anymore but i can agree with this. as soon as an opportunity rises, the map WILL be one of the more played ones like clouds, avalanche, vip, obama, peanut etc.













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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2019, 06:15:27 pm »
so let us say this was changed and we get put on a dumbass map those three people that are complaining will MAYBE stay the people who like the 6-10 maps we play a lot of will fucking leave and once the server gets low people leave because everyone else leaves.
Why please the minorities to piss off the majority?

Also, Server depop maybe has 4% to do with maps. It is mostly school, tired of JB, and not liking the people/admins who are playing currently.
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Re: [Jailbreak Poll] Increase time before a map can be played again
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2019, 06:58:58 pm »
so let us say this was changed and we get put on a dumbass map those three people that are complaining will MAYBE stay the people who like the 6-10 maps we play a lot of will fucking leave and once the server gets low people leave because everyone else leaves.
Why please the minorities to piss off the majority?

Also, Server depop maybe has 4% to do with maps. It is mostly school, tired of JB, and not liking the people/admins who are playing currently.
So occasionally  we get  a map like say, tropico, dojo, or potato, or things like that, we're not losing a large chunk of the population switching over. That is a pretty blatant falsficication

We are losing players from overplaying maps, the same cannot be said about playing the other maps unless we vote in something like Soar.
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