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Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« on: May 02, 2018, 10:54:50 pm »
Recently, TangoWorldWide has seen an increase in cheating on and around our network. Over the last several months "HvH" or "Hack v. Hack" has risen in popularity in CS:GO. This has enticed many users alike to participate in this game-mode. Today, we are making the following changes to our cheating policy to appropriately respond to the influx of cheating in CS:GO, and other games. In addition, many members who have participated in this game-mode have slowly started to spill out into other game-servers, and competitive matches. Last week, we regretfully had to release one of our staff members due to their actions. We have made the following modifications, and look forward to your feedback below.

As of now, we are supporting "HvH", however we have imposed strict limitations to our policies. This is one of our most strict, yet most thorough cheating policies to date, and we are excited to present it to the community.

The following is the specific update to our cheating policy, effective immediately:

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1. TangoWorldWide disallows cheating, injecting, or scripting of any kind on any TangoWorldWide Server or in any other server where the use of 3rd party tools are not allowed.

Policy:
Cheating and Disruption
Players who use any third party assistance such as, but not limited to: cheats, injections, scripting, etc on any servers where the usage of 3rd party tools is not allowed is deemed punishable. Players which try to ruin the fun for others by giving themselves an unfair advantage will be punished. This policy is for any player who utilizes our network, not only limited to the members and supporters of the community.

A. All Cheating and Disruption bans require VIDEO EVIDENCE or a VAC/GAME ban to stand. To report another player, video evidence must be uploaded to a media sharing platform such as YOUTUBE.COM, PLAYS.TV, MEGA.CO.NZ, MEDIAFIRE.COM, or DROPBOX.COM.

B. Cheating and Disruption bans will only be shortened or removed if the evidence is inconclusive, or the Executive Board unanimously votes to remove the ban which is instated on the appealing user.

C. Cheating in any server is an immediate 12-month game-ban. If our staff can determine with certainty that the owner of an account is cheating, all of their known and future accounts will be subject to this ban.
  • Cheating in servers which allow 3rd party tools such as "HvH" or "Hack v. Hack" is allowed. This does NOT include cheating in a Valve Server if you and opposing team-mates agree to cheat.
  • Cheating on alternate accounts is not allowed. If our staff can determine with certainty that the owner of an account is cheating, all of their known and future accounts will be subject to this ban.
  • (Valve) VAC Bans inside a source-engine game will result in a 12-month game-ban. Failure to provide proof of ban reason upon request results in a 12-month ban.
  • (Valve) GAME Bans inside a source-engine game will result in a rank-reset to novice recruit, or removal from the community for the first offense. Thereafter, a 12-month ban. GAME bans which we receive any form of evidence of the player cheating will automatically default to a 12-month ban. Failure to provide proof of ban reason upon request results in a 12-month ban.
D. Scripting or the usage of a macro in any server is an immediate 6-month ban.
  • Scripting/Macroing includes Razer Synapse and programs alike which can be used as a 3rd party tool to assist a player performing an action. (Such as jumping in a game).
  • Using software such as AutoHotKey is considered Scripting/Macroing.
  • Any form of programmatic or hardware based benefits which you can receive which other players cannot (such as an endless scroll on your mouse-wheel) is not allowed.
E. Violating the Cheating and Disruption policy multiple times will result an immediate permanent ban which can only be reversed by an unanimous Executive vote.

F. Being banned by any league in an Official Match or via client (such as ESEA, CEVO, etc) while apart of TangoWorldWide will be deemed as cheating, and the procedures above will be followed.

G. You may discuss "HvH" or related content but may not explicitly advertise a 3rd party tool which provides an unfair advantage to a player. In addition you may not advertise 'configs, settings, etc' related to a cheating tool.

H. Cheating in a non source-engine game will result in consequences on a case-by-case basis. Games which TangoWorldWide actively participates in, or has servers in, will typically result in a ban. Games which we do not support, indie games, etc may vary.




These new policies can be found on our new CoCPE which is officially in the works. This update to the CoCPE is long overdue, and will be a several week process to perfect. To track it's progress, our CoCPE is live on TangoWorldWide's Gitlab where you can see differentials to see posed changes, updated policies, and revision history. An example is provided in the screenshot below:


Inside our repository, you can find the PHP and text version of the new CoCPE. As we continue to write our CoCPE, each policy with is found in the https://tangoworldwide.net/cocpe2.php will replace whatever is in the current "Rules". Eventually the link will be updated, and CoCPE will be fully complete (announced in another thread). To track the progress, visit https://git.tangoworldwide.net/balon/cocpe.

Please provide your feedback below.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2018, 05:30:00 am by balon »

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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2018, 10:59:40 pm »
Should we make a Server that allows hacks? I mean it would give people who do use them there own server so they have no excuse to be on the other servers.
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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2018, 11:00:09 pm »
Should we make a Server that allows hacks? I mean it would give people who do use them there own server so they have no excuse to be on the other servers.

At this time we have no plans to increase the server capacity of CSGO.

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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2018, 11:02:01 pm »
oh u actually rewrote the cheating policy
good thing i dont cheat
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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2018, 11:02:13 pm »
I like this idea, I do have a few questions on other things we may consider cheating.

Specifically null binds in Bhop, as it's been heavily debated throughout the years I've been on Bhop whether or not it's cheating. For a long time we've punished them for it but ultimately we can't really prove someone is using it, although an anticheat may be able to, and any user can do it, without downloading files.

Other than some things like that though, I do love the new policies and I think it's a good clear definition of Tango's stance on things.
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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2018, 11:05:48 pm »
I like this idea, I do have a few questions on other things we may consider cheating.

Specifically null binds in Bhop, as it's been heavily debated throughout the years I've been on Bhop whether or not it's cheating. For a long time we've punished them for it but ultimately we can't really prove someone is using it, although an anticheat may be able to, and any user can do it, without downloading files.

Other than some things like that though, I do love the new policies and I think it's a good clear definition of Tango's stance on things.

Things which are possible through the CSGO Console will not be deemed as cheating. It is not 'unfair' as anyone can use it with the proper commands.

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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2018, 11:06:03 pm »
I like this idea, I do have a few questions on other things we may consider cheating.

Specifically null binds in Bhop, as it's been heavily debated throughout the years I've been on Bhop whether or not it's cheating. For a long time we've punished them for it but ultimately we can't really prove someone is using it, although an anticheat may be able to, and any user can do it, without downloading files
nulls =/= cheating.
you cant even detect it accurately anyway lol
people use didnt use nulls got detected on horizon all the time so they took it out
it doesnt give you an unfair advantage, in bhop at least lol

it isnt even hard to not press a and d at the same time anyway
how shit do u have to be xd
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2018, 11:08:45 pm »
dont fukin cheat in our servers u dweebs
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2018, 11:34:10 pm »
tango hvh server coming next quarter? @balon

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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2018, 12:54:30 am »
we should be able  to buy hacks instead of admin!
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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2018, 02:43:16 pm »
about time u have an actually consistent cheat policy

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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2018, 06:34:25 pm »
Cheating in an assumedly Fair and Competitive environment is detestable, but if people want to fill a server with Cheating players, and it affects no one else I don't see the issue.

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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2018, 12:18:04 am »
A hvh server would lead to a massive influx in cheaters on our other servers, both closeted and blatant ones. Needless to say, if we get one I wont stick around to deal with them.
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Re: Updated Cheating Policy + New Era of CoCPE
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2018, 12:19:55 am »
A hvh server would lead to a massive influx in cheaters on our other servers, both closet and blatant ones. Needless to say, if we get one I wont stick around to deal with them.
That sounds fucking cancer.

HVH is fine, people can do whatever. But the day we start adding a large number of HVHers to our community is the day I leave.

I really don't feel like dealing with SKids all day and it marks a steady decline of the community.

 

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