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Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« on: January 04, 2017, 02:14:43 am »
Back in 2014/2015 TangoWorldWide's servers ran !ws/!knife across the network. Today we're starting to re-introduce the plugin after a huge staff vote in December of 2016.


It's back...


After numerous attempts to contact Valve, Steam, and the entire CS:GO developer team, reaching out on the mailing list, steam, and reddit; we've ultimately fell short in getting valve to step up and do anything about their issues with !ws and !knife. Other communities for months have gone with these plugins running, slowly moving closer and some even passing our server's in population. About a month back in a staff meeting we asked ourselves why? Was it something we were failing to do or provide? So we started to monitor the servers and by comparing our traffic to a server with !ws and !knife in the title, we saw almost a 200/day connection difference, in just one server. Collectively, our staff did a council-wide vote to pass these plugins re-added to our network at a 67 to 3 vote.

Today we are going to start rolling out !ws and !knife to our servers once more. Deathrun has already received this update in it's BETA. Surf and Minigames should expect the plugins by Friday, with plans to expand it to 1v1, and maybe resurface Europe with a surf, 1v1, and awp server(s) with this plugin running to test our theory.

While we as a community, want to respect valve's official rules and policies, they are failing to uphold their end: preventing the plugin from being able to be ran. As long as this is possible, communities will run the plugin and have an unfair advantage. We contemplated adding this for a few weeks, and ultimately came to the conclusion that if valve didn't even stop CS:GO gambling successfully (still to this day MAJOR sites like csgolounge, csgobig, society, etc run with no punishment from valve).

Valve has been silent entirely about this matter since November of 2015. The original request came in July. It's time to change and re-load these plugins to our network until valve breaks this silence and starts doing something about these plugins once more. We cannot have our network suffer due to the fault(s) of their corporation. The day that valve actually speaks up again, and does something, we will immediately remove the plugins without hesitation or a days delay.

Thank you for reading, you are welcome to leave your feedback below. Do note, some servers will not receive this update such as Jailbreak and Bunny Hop due to their success, however, if such changes and other !ws/!knife servers pass those out... we may consider such in the future. Only time will tell.

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Currently, our servers will be banned when detected. This happens on average Mondays, Wednesday, and Friday sometimes in the morning or early afternoon.

Our server(s) will be running a plugin which will automatically detect the server has been banned, and refresh it with a new token. Downtime should be minimal(5m or less), we'll know more in the following day.

Hope you all enjoy your new features in our server(s).
« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 02:19:37 am by balon »


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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 02:23:02 am »
I'm happy you said Bhop and JB wont, and I can see this especially helping the 1v1 server since people love to look like they have skins when they get dicked on ;)

Its nice to see the less populated servers are being thought about, however. Hopefully this will benefit our servers :D


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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2017, 02:27:54 am »
Poor Bhop, now I gotta remember how I got scammed @balon  :'( :-X

Just messing around, but kinda upset Bhop won't get it :P
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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2017, 02:33:19 am »
I missed this, had it on Jailbreak when I joined but then it was removed.

Glad to have it back so we can experiment how well it goes.  8)

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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2017, 02:33:59 am »
Glad to see this is back within our servers seeing as most of our competing servers are using these plugins.
I hope to see an influx of people within the servers that will be using !ws and !knife.
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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2017, 02:52:21 am »
Honestly, I joined tango like 2 months ago and had no idea why this plugin wasn't added already. But to see that it is being added again is very pleasing :).

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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2017, 04:26:28 am »
So we're constantly going to get our servers banned by Valve? Won't this look bad eventually? Or does Valve just not care anymore?
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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
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Happy you wont be adding this to bhop. Looking forward to seeing this on the servers listed above :D

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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2017, 05:19:31 am »
Here's to hoping that putting this on our servers will bring more members in Tango!

Can't wait to see the popularity of deathrun and 1v1 rise as they have not been up and alive as of recent.

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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2017, 08:44:53 am »
Thank you Balon for helping Deathrun hopefully the populations grows and Thank you @Toasty for making this happen
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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2017, 09:17:01 am »
So we're constantly going to get our servers banned by Valve? Won't this look bad eventually? Or does Valve just not care anymore?

Servers banned no, tokens banned yes.

The way Valve's rolling ban system works is if it detects these plugins running (on certain days) it will ban the GSLT Token that the server is using to run, packages of GSLT Tokens are relatively cheap and works with another plugin to detect when a token is banned when that happens the plugin replaces the token and reboots the server.
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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2017, 09:25:08 am »
Why will jailbreak not recieve the !ws & !knife?

I'd at least just add !knife but not !ws for lag reasons.
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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2017, 09:47:08 am »
@c0ncept we are only doing deathrun mg and surf for now as a beta for the plugin. These server specifically because balon thought they needed it most.

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Re: Tango to see !ws/!knife once more
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2017, 10:50:05 am »
@Toasty  MG doesn't need the help they average 10 players on at a time
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