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Abusing Admin: @Para
Server this occurred on: Jailbreak
Time of occurrence (Date and Time, Map and Round): 6:00 PM (Roughly) EST vipinthemix (Last round) and prison architect (Warmup - Round 3)
What was abused: Mute, Gag, Warn
What happened (Be detailed): Earlier in the round, I'd killed proify for pulling a gun out and pointing it at me. Nearly 3-4 minutes later I'm /warn for "why did you kill proify" (First Abuse, he didn't see me kill proify) I explain over VC but am muted because of /mw from the warden, don't realize. I am asked again, I explain in chat (Imgur 1) and think it's done with. Before the round ends AGAIN I'm asked, "Why did you kill proify, last warning." I explain over VC that I had literally told him in chat and explained over VC just to be sure and am muted (Second Abuse, I was loud but answering a question HE asked. He claims I was spamming.) I ask in chat once while on vipinthemix who was warning (Imgur 2) and am gagged without an answer. Map swaps. I ask when we're a bit into warmup I ask "All I gotta ask is who muted and warned me to drop it." (Imgur 2 as well) (Admin was communicating through warns, hence why I needed to ask this way. This all the 3rd abuse, I was gagged for asking who did it for "Spamming about it" which is false as seen by chat logs, I said a single thing while on that map and one in the last map. I remain gagged through Round 1, start of round 2 I ask "Why am I still gagged?" In admin chat once, start of round 3 I ask "Why am I still gagged?" and "para?" and get the answer, "leddy keep asking and its going go on for longer". (Imgur 3)

I leave at this point to make the abuse report. Fed up of the lack of proper communication and abuse of power.
Provide necessary proof (Demolinks are NOT sufficient evidence): https://imgur.com/a/qWCwDbv (Imgur links including the first and second referenced Imgurs.)
http://tangoworldwide.gameme.com/player_histories/chat/222278 (Full Chat Logs)
https://youtu.be/GBl3QMtmQ-Y (VIPInTheMix) Please message if I need to record the 3 rounds of Prison Architect as well, there was nothing there besides 3 rounds of normal gagged silent gameplay, it's all covered by the logs I'd think there.
I hereby agree to follow the guidelines set-forth above(Agree/Disagree): Agree
« Last Edit: May 20, 2019, 03:19:13 pm by asta »
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Re: para Abuse [Mute, Gag, Warn, Attempting to act on things not seen]
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2019, 08:57:44 pm »
I had only warned you twice one for asking why proify was killed before you gave a reason that was stated in chat. After you had said the reason baby dracos had not seen the messege and warned you again, once the mw was over you had yelled into your mic over a little mishap that didnt have anything to do with me so i muted you, i had also stated in one of my warns that i had warned you twice and then told you to drop it. Then you had kept asking who muted you even untill map change, then once the map changed you had asked once again so i had gaged you and i believe i warned you to drop it saying that you allredy know who had gaged. If you would have waited the round out i would have ungaged you but you wernt taking being gaged very well. The one thing i could agree with is seeing why you were gaged after map change but im pretty sure after i had explained to you in chat why you were gaged.

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Re: para Abuse (Mute, Gag, Warn, Attempting to act on things not seen)
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2019, 03:19:03 pm »
While I don't see a major use of abusive powers by the admins here, I do think they need a refresher on how to handle players in game and how to handle /warns.
The server wasn't that hectic, the chat wasn't moving fast, and they still failed to see you answer them multiple times. 

@Paradice and babydrahco, you both need to understand that there are many different ways to approach players about freekills and rules being broken. You can use voice chat, text chat, warns, pm's, steam messages etc. All of these are fine forms of communication, but you need to know when and where to use them properly. If a warden is giving orders and people are talking, generally you shouldn't ask an important admin to player question over voice chat. That is when you should use text chat. After you warn them, you need to pay attention to voice chat and text chat for their response. If they don't respond, check to see if maybe they are /mw'd or muted. Then ask them to type their response. Now if they don't respond after all the precautions you have taken, you should use your admin powers to handle the situation correctly. You should not have to be given a lecture on how to admin JB by the internal affairs manager, but here we are.

@Leddy you definitely could have responded more calmly, but I understand your frustration. In the future try to give a more calm response even if they keep repeating.

Both admins in question will be assigned a mentor to further teach them how to handle players properly.

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