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Official Announcements / End of the Road (8th Year Post & Future Plans)
« on: January 05, 2022, 12:17:59 am »

On January 2, 2022 TangoWorldWide turned 8... and today (January 4, 2022) marks 8 years of the forums running. Welcome to our 8th Year Anniversary post, it is a bit overdue, as it was a difficult one to put together and write: but much needed. Thanks to those of you who have been sticking around, some very eager for this message today.

Just over 8 years ago, we sought out to compete against other gaming communities and clans alike to get our foothold in the massive network of groups that make steam the unique platform it is. Tons of 'mission statements' or 'goals' were tossed around over the last several years, but one held true: to provide a home away from home. A distraction. And for many of us over the years, for better or for worse, that's exactly what TangoWorldWide had become: something to invest time into, to build friendships, to distraction ourselves from the many things that were going on around us in "real life". Eight years later, and it's not as needed today... groups on steam have evolved past their community/clan structure, and the entire gaming scene has shifted from what it once was. There is not as much of a need now for TangoWorldWide, the steam-based gaming community, as there once was. It's taken a lot of maturity over the years to accept all good things do have to come to an end, and we are not teenagers who can spill hundreds of hours a month into games anymore, so with that: the steam-based gaming side of TangoWorldWide will cease to exist after today (more details to come later in the post).

We've had so many people hold 'Ownership' titles at this point, I can't keep track of all the names, or even how many. But for certain there are countless names that I owe thank you to once all is said and done. To Zeph, rizky, The1Speck, and Alex: thank you for being apart of that original group of folks who really 'founded' this place. We wouldn't have even existed without each and every one of your inputs. To Doomy/Mobz/Freeman/Nisse/Roz/aPn/Polak/Solo/Adam/Shadow/Sinister, and that long list of first two-year folks, thank you for being apart of TangoWorldWide and helping us shape into what we did over the years. This list could go on for pages, and I've re-written the post many times, so I'll leave it at thanking my Ownership: @loo ★, you are an incredible "COO" and handle things very well in my absence, and a great friend all around. @jordan, I am incredibly happy you joined us, you and lulu ended up some of the best friends I've ever had on the internet and I'm very appreciative to you both. @Urbaena, you're well aware how much I respect I have for you, hoping very much we end up working together one day past all this, thank you for helping us do really great things in the time you had developed here. Aside from Ownership, a few friends and folks that hang around, or I'd be remiss to not thank: @Vita, thank you for always believing in our community - even when we were very obviously on fire. @Ady, you are an awesome friend and I appreciate you a lot for all the times you've stepped in to pick up the pieces for me. And lastly @briana, while it will be a surprise to most to see you on this list, thank you for the years of support, without it I would've likely resigned or shut us down long ago.

All this being said, while we are shutting the steam-based gaming side of TangoWorldWide (and a few other things, which again we'll get to later in this post), I still to this day cannot wrap my head around some of the great memories, moments, and outstanding things this community did accomplish. Maybe not all in the rankings for gaming communities for the entire duration -- but we did a lot of cool things. For me personally, I got to work hands on with a variety of really talented people that ranged from members in high-school just learning how to program, all the way to professionals. We theorized so many crazy methods of doing things. Built tons of groups within TangoWorldWide as 'clubs' for people to engage with. Saw friendships form, be destroyed, relationships be built, and so many other interactions throughout this community. I am extremely thankful for the last 8 years being the Director, and from the bottom of my heart, I've appreciated each and every one of you.

I can only hope that over the last 8 years of TangoWorldWide, the community made a positive impact on some of your lives -- be it: providing you a place to hangout, by giving you a place to make new friends, a hobby, an interest, or for those of you who made it a goal to get banned -- a challenge. One of the biggest rewards of running Tango was the times people would reach out thanking us for what we did, giving us backstory into their lives and expressing how much having a place to 'escape' on the internet really made a positive impact on them. Those are moments that I think about, and thought about very much in making the decision to write this announcement today.. and what we will do for future plans.

What Happened to 'balon'?
When some of the longer-term members think back, there was a much more passionate, fired-up individual who used to run this community. Someone who would come into meetings and get vocal for people to focus, come up with new plans, new strategies, and to help us keep moving forward. Somewhere along the way in 2016, that fire started to burn out, and i only ever gave sprinkles of context. In Spring of 2016 my mom was in a pretty big car accident and suffered a traumatic brain injury. Following her accident, came months, and months of hospitals, doctor appointments, lawyers, court hearings, and so on. To this day (now almost 6 years later), she is still not herself and had suffered permanent damages.

Growing up, my mom had been a single mom -- something I expressed to a few of you over the years -- and was a huge role model and person in my life. Having to migrate into a 'caretaker' role was a huge challenge for me, because at the time I was juggling working full time in IT/system admin work, doing freelance work, working towards a bachelors and minor, and then also running tango. This put a major strain on me, and this is when my drive and passion for things started to decline massively. For a long time, I truly believed if we worked hard on tango, with all the ideas, talented folks, and creative minds we had around... no way we couldn't build something bigger than a gaming community.

Over the last 2.5-3 years, her health had significantly declined and I became her full-time caretaker. This put a strain on my graduate degree, my work, relationship, friendships. Pretty much everything across the board was impacted by her declining health.

To this day, I still take care of her, and I'm trying to juggle full-time work, fixing up her house, a few other side-things, and as of spring last year a major weight-loss journey. For those of you who enjoyed your "whalon" memes over the years, to date I've lost just north of 230lbs, with no intentions on stopping any time soon.

Needless to say, the last few years of my life were pretty crazy, and unfortunately TangoWorldWide got back-burnered too many times. I take full responsibility for the eventual downfall of the community, but, I regret nothing as I've been a pretty firm believer that family comes first.

What now?
As of today, we have enough remaining funding to continue on for another year or two if we move forward with a better strategy. We could try to rebuild if _ was active, and we did _, but I think I've seen one too many "<insert-game-name-here> returns to TangoWorldWide!" posts for this lifetime. I'd like to think that a much younger me wouldn't have stayed in a space so long where the lights were on... but "nobody was home" (essentially pissing away money). Effective immediately, we will be marking the steam-based gaming community portion of TangoWorldWide for removal and make the following changes:

Effective Q1 2022:
  • Removal of all steam-related gameservers
    • Final backup of each existing gameserver
    • Final backup of each related SQL database
    • Final network diagram of each server before destruction
  • Reduction in webserver size
    • Scale back forums to match new variety-styled community
    • Forums will receive only QOL and security updates
    • Notify KZAdmins that we will no longer be able to host file server
    • Deploy a new dev-server for future potential projects*
  • Some plugin authors will be contacted, and we will inquire if they are OK if we open-source their tango-related works, as a thank you to the SM/AM community for all these years of support
  • Any remaining 'legacy' services will be removed
  • Remaining rust/minecraft resources will be destroyed
  • Teamspeak 3 will be down-sized and scaled to 32-max users
  • The Roster will be re-designed to match the new community-design
  • Backups containing user data over a 5 year period will be destroyed, shortened to 3 years after Summer 2022
  • 'Dangling' items will be removed (things forgotten on this list)
  • The discord will be primary controlled by @loo ★
  • TangoWorldWide's Tag Policy has been removed
    • Tags are no longer required (though encouraged for staff, or those who wish to represent us still)
    • FTCS will be taken offline

There are several items that I've missed that I will edit in after this is posted, or when they are removed/modified. From here forward, we will have a Discord/Forum/Teamspeak, and a dev environment that Ownership will be allowed to deploy server(s) of their choosing for 'pop-up' games (such as when @Urbaena hosted the voice server for Among Us).

This was ultimately a hard decision to make, but one that was long overdue. Probably well over a year. I simply do not have the time to commit any longer to fully run this place, and most of us in higher staff would like to retain control of the community (to continue to preserve the friendships and connections we built over the years). A few weeks back a well-valued ex-staff member reached out asking to make a jailbreak server in our name (or to rebuild ours), and after I replied that they could, I had not heard anything since ... this was a deciding factor that we could not continue on waiting for the 'next staff rotation' to pull TangoWorldWide up again, we need an active and effective leadership. One which has very obviously grown up past actively gaming.

Closing Remarks
If you've made it this far in the post, thank you for taking the time to read the Year 8 announcement. If all goes well with these changes, we'll see you at Year 9, and then hopefully for our 10-Year anniversary (one of my longest standing goals to surpass as a community owner).

Once again, for those of you who asked for years, the TangoWorldWide steam tag is no longer required (but you are of course encouraged to keep it on if you so wish, to represent the community).

Thank you all for a great 8 years as a community, and thank you again for being here.
Even if we do not make it to the 9 year post, it has been an absolute pleasure and honor being the owner of this community.

Did you know? This title is based on the one from Year 5.

Official Announcements / Feed-The-Beast Revelations World Reset
« on: March 30, 2021, 08:48:18 pm »
TangoMC released a modded minecraft server in December 2020, currently that world is not in use anymore and many new members have joined tango. To make things fair we have reset the world. Everything on the server has been wiped, including the whitelisting. The server is currently up so to get whitelisted you must be a member or have special exemption from Briana.
Please DM pun to get whitelisted, or one of the following to get whitelisted
pun.#9108 | AndrewS#5244 | bribalon#0306

When DMing one of the following provide your minecraft username.
Below are some instructions for how to download the modpack, install optifine and get shaders.
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Need help on other mods? use https://ftb.gamepedia.com/FTB_Revelation. Very helpful guide to discovering the mods within FTB Revelation!

Departures / bye bye tango!
« on: March 24, 2021, 09:30:28 pm »
This community is a great spot to chill and make friends, it was perfect and it's a great community to get involved and get noticed in.  I had a great time here in tango but I just don't think I can juggle going on and off of tango so I've decided to leave for real this time.  Nothing was wrong with tango's rules, members, community, nothing! its just that I don't think I can juggle the things I want to do in tango and do other hobbies in my spare time.  Heres to some great memories, friends, a community.  Cheers! *this is where the whine glasses go together and stuff*

Heres to all of the great people I met in tango and a message for them.
@ldcommish All you've done is climb the ladder of community, you defiantly should've gotten SA when we both applied, keep making new friends and climb up the ranks man.
@Milky. Not sure if this is the real one but hey keep being the great admin/staff you are, you've got a chill personality and seem like a great guy
@dolip Not sure if you've left but keep being hella funny and chill as always
@AndrewS Keep being a great backbone to the community! I know you'll make a whole bunch of friends that'll love to be around ya.

For anyone else that I didn't mention I kinda forgot your name but keep being awesome

@balon Those are some nice changes coming to Tango! It is nice to come back once in a while and see how much Tango has changed in the many years since i left hehe. I should come back to Jailbreak servers for more giveaways :)

Departures / Re: My actual departure this time
« on: March 12, 2021, 08:15:14 pm »
I win, again, skype prevails, others perish, skype is eternal, I've awoken from my slumber once again, tho qoute myself, again.

Skype is eternal, skype is the allfather

Off-Topic / Re: Shit Tango Says
« on: March 01, 2021, 10:26:26 pm »

fuck i cant double post uhh

Denied / Re: Ldcommish HoF
« on: February 05, 2021, 08:08:25 pm »

omg geays hea playded for 2.5 yares agusy??1///1/!!
bro gusy hes a no lkifer he scogulkd bein !!! laike guys hea has no alife gusy!1

honestly hasn't really done much other then become an admin on jb and apply for 7 forum groups

Yeah, here we have the story of two young kids who joined our community around the same age(s).

@ldcommish has achieved staff, has been an extremely active member of our community, has given good input, has high ambitions to contribute to our community, and does more than any person his age that I know. Hell, most times when I interact with him at all I forget his age that is how mature he acts and what he brings forth for our community. He will be apart of the future of this community.

Now, lets review you @abc, since you think you have the grounds to make a judgment on someone else's contributions:
  • 184 posts, three warnings in that time, two for low quality / shit posting
  • zero notable contributions to our community, could not make it past memberr
  • VAC banned TWO VAC Bans
  • Multiple bans on our network

Absolute disgrace to our community, please consider exiting promptly. If not, I'm sure your name will find its' way to my ban command eventually.

General Discussion / Re: SELFIES
« on: February 05, 2021, 08:53:33 am »
Felt cute @AndrewS

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Freebies & Giveaways / 24 hour giveaway
« on: January 27, 2021, 07:54:56 am »
so basically just doing a reimu T model giveaway, i will pick a random winner in 24 hours, to enter just comment (optional:like if you have big balls) gl

Processed Official Member Apps / Re: Nelson Mandela Member Application
« on: January 01, 2021, 05:59:13 pm »

toxic on jb, would not like to see him in tango without being better on the servers

Garry's Mod / The Basics of Pointshop
« on: December 27, 2020, 07:23:15 am »
The Basics of Pointshop was created to help players understand the new Pointshop that we have on our Garry's Mod Servers! It's a unique experience compared to other communities and servers. If you have any suggestions for our pointshop, feel free to post them in the Suggestions & Ideas Section.

The Table of Contents serves as a convenience for returning players looking for specific information.

Table of Contents

1. TangoStore Basics
2. TangoStore Inventory & Items
3. Understanding Card Packs & Store Cards

Closing Notes:
If there are errors within this book, please contact @Jess., @Loo, or @Ryanf47 via PM here on the forums.

Please note all changes to the handbook in the format: MM/DD/YYYY - Describe changes made.
Ex. 07/21/2018 - Minor grammar edits.
Any specific changes to the handbook must be noted in the changelog!

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01/06/2021 - TangoStore Inventory & Items section is released.
01/05/2021 - TangoStore Basics section is released.
01/02/2021 - The Basics of Pointshop v1.0 is released.

Event Suggestions / Re: Intro to Developing Event
« on: December 26, 2020, 06:47:06 am »

As Jess has said and from my past experiences tutoring/teaching fundamentals of computer science, Object-Oriented Programming, multiple programming languages, and other similar topics. it takes longer than a 45-60 minute to learn even the fundamentals of a language or programming.

To give an idea, even the basics such as learning the basics syntax of a language can be an hour-long lesson (this obv changes depending on a person's ability to comprehend and other factors).  Even then, it does not mean that the person has learned it, they could completely forget the lesson and teachings a few days later.

Learning to program requires regular lessons, training, practice, and the push to want to learn it. Look at coding bootcamps, most are daily lectures, practice, and learning for on average 14 weeks.

As much as I and other devs would love to see more people interested in coding, I don't think many of the active devs in tango have the time to hold people's hand as they learn due to personal/professional/tango projects and commitments they have (But I can't speak for them).

BUT many of us are active on discord and will provide support and answer questions when asked in the #tech channel.

If this really is of interest, I wouldn't mind helping out by hosting weekly/bi-weekly Q&A styled events/meetings depending on my schedule as it is my last semester in University and I don't have as many club responsibilities anymore. And I can believe others will agree, there wouldn't be any mind to start creating lists of resources to help learn and practice in the Society of Computer Science Section and in the #tech channel on discord.

Official Announcements / Happy Holidays from TangoWorldWide
« on: December 25, 2020, 12:58:47 pm »

It has been a very long and strange year for all of us. So many of us have gone past many challenges, roadblocks, and worked hard at getting past the pandemic and adjusting to remote learning, living, and interactions (past what we all were used to in gaming :feelsbadman:).

We wanted to take a minute from the entire staff team of TangoWorldWide to wish you all a Merry Christmas, and say we are excited to power forward in 2021. Our community has a lot left to give, a lot of new updates and plans to feature, and a bright future with the outstanding members we have here.

Over the last several years TangoWorldWide has hoped to act like a home away from home, completely online, where your friends and interactions are endless. We look forward to continuing our story in 2021 and empowering our mission.

Merry Christmas!

Promotions & Demotions / Promotions, Rank Adjustments, & Acceptances v351
« on: December 19, 2020, 10:37:12 pm »
Promotions & Acceptances v350

@IKEA was granted Legend.
@SiL3nT was granted Legend.
@Additive was granted Distinguished.
@Beezwax99 was granted Distinguished.
@Dkmstr was granted Distinguished.
@WickedAmaya was promoted to Community Ambassadors.
@Persephone was promoted to Community Ambassadors.
@samz was promoted to Divisional Leader (of Minecraft).
@Salty was promoted to Divisional Leader (of CSGO).
@Bill was promoted to CS:GO Divisional Staff: Jailbreak.
@TheTacticalTech was promoted to Web and Comms Mod.
@AndrewS was promoted to Sr. Staff.
@COCK was promoted to Sr. Staff.
@Desp was promoted to Sr. Staff.
@nooperton was promoted to Sr. Staff.
@Yoink was promoted to Sr. Staff.
@Philly has resigned to Vet Member.
@Dragonate has been temporarily moved to Sr. Staff, pending reposition.

@Creole was accepted as a Novice Recruit.

Processed SA Apps / Re: StepBro Sa Application
« on: December 14, 2020, 09:32:44 pm »
I can’t lie, this guy as an applicant is better than the ~6 below it, not only that I heard you guys are in a struggle for admins so +v
Thanks dude everyone says I abuse but I don't and when i confront them about it all they do is come up with excuse on why they couldn't record it or something. I'm no here to get hate I just want to hear peoples response on how I should improve. Being an Sa would be awesome but i can agree that i need a little more experience, but no one like's to help me. Fork helped me with my application to become a member and that all the help I've received.
Hello I'm part of a group named mentorship feel free to dm me on discord and I'll be happy to set you up with some help with administrating or anything you need. We are always looking to help people that want to improve and just need some help

Best Regards

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