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Remove spy v spy / adjust the map
« on: March 08, 2021, 10:36:55 pm »
1. Describe the Suggestion: Legit just remove spy v spy (Edit: Add things to the map such as minigames and other things.) Today (3/8/21) going into spy v spy we had 30+ people on undertale and when we join spy we instantly lose 10 people, then by round like 5 there was 14 people (Heavy depop happens every time I've played this map since like 2018). This map has 0 fun minigames, all of them are mad overplayed and all it does is just make everybody want to leave. The only fun minigames (climb and traitor) are both broken, in climb one of them you can't even play cus its broken and will kill you if you hit a weird spot so it's just a pain for the admins to 1up, and traitor if the traitor is above you and you jump right underneath them it'll kill you, another one is if you are on the opposite side of the wall in traitor it'll sometimes kill you when they didn't even touch you.
2. Related link(s): N/A
3. Possible positive impacts: Could bring a new map, gets rid of a trashy map that just causes people to leave, and will make it so people will actually vote other maps than just clouds and spy.
4. Possible negative impacts: People will might whine about the map being removed.
5. Which Division/Server will this idea affect: JailBreak
6. Tag the respective Staff member(s): (div staff, div leader, web admin, etc.): @ldcommish , @waddles (if there is more my bad)
« Last Edit: March 09, 2021, 09:56:23 am by Oranges »

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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2021, 10:40:40 pm »
+vouch same reasons as what oranges said... little to no fun minigames and makes me wanna go :puke:
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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2021, 10:44:12 pm »
+v +v +v +v, completely self explanatory. just a terrible map for high and low pop, super rebel heavy (and i'm saying that as a t main), and depops the server significantly every time it is swapped to. also is played so much that it is SO boring, especially when most ct's are inexperienced and don't know how to handle moving t's through narrow hallways. also no fun minigames that make me want to play it in the first place.

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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2021, 10:47:56 pm »
spy vs spy really is an OG map, is there no possible way to modify it similarly to minecraft?

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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2021, 10:59:15 pm »
VOUCH DEPOPS SERVER SHOULD'VE BEEN OUT LONG TIME GO

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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2021, 11:04:36 pm »
vouch god that shit is dog water. FUcking complete dog shit complete and utter fucking poopoo map.
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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2021, 11:10:20 pm »
spy vs spy really is an OG map, is there no possible way to modify it similarly to minecraft?

I couldn't tell you, I don't know how the mapping thing works on servers, but there is another variation on steam (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=129577673) that is practically the same thing just with another floor, and one or two added minigames (that aren't great)

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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2021, 11:16:09 pm »
its a monday night are you serious lmao



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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2021, 11:25:31 pm »
More opinions from a few older players here when I suggested this a few years ago: https://tangoworldwide.net/index.php?topic=31107.msg254822#msg254822

However, I don't think the map should be removed. It was an OG map when I posted that years ago and it still is. Nobody is gonna like every map and some maps will depop people, people aren't gonna stay on for every map
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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2021, 11:33:03 pm »
Neutral leaning towards vouch

Honestly, I like the map, it gives me a feel of nostalgia because it was one of the first maps I played, I always have fun on this map. But it is very rebel heavy and is low on games to the point almost every game is used atleast 2-4 times a map. Like stated tho, if you can just modify it to add more minigames, make it less rebel heavy please do so.


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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2021, 11:57:05 pm »
If I had a fucking dollar for every time we remove a map because of shit cts bro

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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2021, 01:09:06 am »
Devouch

The state that spy is in right now is worse than ever due to several things and one of them being a MASSIVE lack of competent CTs on the server at any given time. It's gotten to the point where during the day we will have 2 CTs playing against 14+ Ts and it's boring, repetitive, and unnecessary. So I can clearly see how a map like spy can suffer greatly from bad CTs or a lack of CTs. Every map is going to be a depop unless something is done about CT idiocy, lack of motivation to play CT, and last but CERTAINLY NOT LEAST Staff and Admins who would rather berate and mock new and inexperienced players then correcting them with the least bit of kindness, respect, or instruction. Of course we have no one playing CT anymore because all people care about is rebelling, making fun of new players for their ignorance, and then doing nothing to fix the problem.

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Re: Remove spy v spy
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2021, 08:38:11 am »
I think the "depop" that you're observing is due to the fact that loading into the map crashes the game 50% of the time

really the only thing that should be changed is the addition of more mini games (surf, bhop etc.)

the map is fun to ct on because its literally just aim practice. click heads until the round is over, rinse/repeat


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Re: Remove spy v spy / adjust the map
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2021, 03:30:01 am »
Regarding 9z's recent post and vslices table (posted below) I don't think removing spy vs spy is a good idea, especially when (out of maps with a decent playtime) it has the 5th highest average population whilst also being played for a decent amount. People might not like it, and I'm sure it will cause a few people to leave, but the data shows that it's one of JBs better performing maps.


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Re: Remove spy v spy / adjust the map
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2021, 05:43:09 am »
Regarding 9z's recent post and vslices table (posted below) I don't think removing spy vs spy is a good idea, especially when (out of maps with a decent playtime) it has the 5th highest average population whilst also being played for a decent amount. People might not like it, and I'm sure it will cause a few people to leave, but the data shows that it's one of JBs better performing maps.



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